• dismay3915@lemmy.world
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    Persian(Farsi) also doesn’t have a word for “The”. We just say the word. There’s also no gender prefixes. The whole language is gender neutral.

    Our ancestors were really up to something thousands of years ago.

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      In English, there is an implied difference between “the girl downstairs was playing violin” (‘the girl’ implying expected knowledge - “oh, her”) versus “a girl downstairs was playing violin” (‘a girl’ - random, likely unknown).

      More broadly “a thing” - one of many, “the thing” - a specific one.

      How would that translate to Farsi?

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          Is the number one used like “a” then? Like a direct translation of the 2 phrases would be “Girl downstairs is playing the violin.” and “one girl downstairs is playing the violin.” As opposed to English using the/a respectively?

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        We do the opposite. If something is known we just say it.

        “The girl(1) is playing(2) violin(3) downstairs(4)”

        دختر(۱) در طبقه‌ی پایین(۴) ویالن(۳) مینوازد(۲)

        To refer to an unknown thing we add a prefix ی to the thing

        A girl -> دختری
        The girl -> دختر

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      And it kinda has me thinking what all of that extra fat really does for a language. I never feel confused about meaning when speaking Persian, so the the/he/she/it/they/them really can’t be doing that much heavy lifting if you can just completely ignore it and have a perfectly functioning language without it.