• MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Gonna be downvoted, because apparently this is car brain central, but the amount of mental gymnastics people will do to make red light camera enforcement “bad” is crazy.

    The US’ private company control over these cameras notwithstanding.

    Fuck me, so many people die on on roads, and especially at intersections.

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      2 days ago

      The US’ private companies

      this is entirely the problem, because they’re turning over info to ICE and other agencies and it’s being used oppressively.

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        Hence my carve out. I don’t support the privacy nightmare the US has.

        I do support road safety cameras in general, if managed properly.

        People don’t have the right to have no consequences for their dangerous behaviour.

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          21 hours ago

          I do support road safety cameras in general, if managed properly.

          yeah that’s the rub. what municipality do you trust to manage them properly in this day and age? I’ve seen horror stories from all over the US, UK…

          I fucking hate, absolutely despise the vroom vroom dickheads who make these technologies desirable. I want them to be held accountable but am not sure it’s worth the ice goons and yokel yokels who will abuse their capabilities.

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      The city I work for put up Flock cameras with specific instructions from Council that they were only to be used for identification of cars flagged in active warrants.

      Within a week of their installation, police used the cameras to track the movements of someone who filed a complaint.

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        Sounds like a police/privacy problem, not the idea of having cameras at all.

        Police should need a warrant to access the videos.

        The software should not log licence plates of every single car that comes past.

        The software should be open source and developed by the public sector.

        I agree what’s in place in the US is a privacy nightmare, but the idea of having cameras in general isn’t fundamentally bad.

        Skill issue USA, git gud.